I have a question, if you would kindly answer. What sets apart the new instinct "Candy" track from the garage genre? Why is it labelled simply nu-skool breaks? There is a lot of shuffling and syncopation in the drum and hi hat region. It also features pop vocals. It does, however, sound like slowed down drum and bass/jungle, as the second kickdrum appears to be a bit close to the second snare in the 4 measure patterns. May that , perhaps, be the settling factor? Or is that also a possibility in 2 step garage? I should mention the track is also around 130 BPM.
It is dubstep, but very limited, the beat pattern is more related to hands up, as well as the lead, you can put melodic dubstep as the genre, 2-step is a very broad term as well, it can describe breakbeat, dnb etc.
And skizzo is like fidget house but a slower bpm, disarray could be, but it's more reliant on basswork and the leads, if you want an example of fidget house, it'll be This Feeling by noisestorm, and if you want a skizzo song, any bass house song with a twitchy sorta lead would be skizzo
yep, i'm a million percent sure This Feeling is fidget house, but, I don't think I've ever heard skizzo in my entire life.
disarray doesn't sound like traditional complextro AT ALL. I have no clue what the hell kind of a subgenre it could be.. I don't know genres THAT in depth. I really want to say bass house, but I don't know if I'd be right.
How about we make pages as accurate as we can make them, specific genres on that need accuracy improvement include as listed: Trance, Hard Dance, House, Glitch Hop/New Beat, Indie Dance, Electro, and Trap, we also need category edititors for albums and song categories, so if you'd like to help feel free to comment on this, because I don't know many other genres down to a dot besides dubstep, garage, drum and bass, and drumstep.
Your "Trance can only be 138 BPM" argument is 100% wrong and unresearched. There is Progressive Trance, which is dominated by profound basslines and kicks (Example: Dream in Color - Ruben de Ronde Remix), and sits between 125 & 132 BPM. So Much Love + Saving Light (Ruben de Ronde Remix) are also considered Progressive Trance for their progression formula & use of Trance melody elements. Uplifting & Tech Trance are dominated by the kick you hear in, for example, Wuxia and sit between 136 & 140 BPM. Psytrance is dominated by a triplet melody, and sits between 136 and 145 BPM (Example: Spitfire, or Audiocidity [if you want one at 145]).
Next: Melbourne Trance DOES exist, and A Lot Like You is just that. Melbourne Trance is a hybrid of Progressive Trance & Melbourne Bounce, and has a whole label dedicated to it, where both Darude & Zac Waters have released.
Point being, don't delete correct information and ban people for correcting it. 5 seconds of research on Beatport or Google will tell you that Trance is extremely diverse and isn't just at 138 BPM.
I'm also making a generalization if you wouldn't take it so seriously, considering I look on beatport for most bpm numbers, and most trance songs are between 136-140 bpm, and the number in between those is 138, see you have psytrance such as spitfire, and then you have psycore such as bass drop and the gammer superhuman remix, then differentiating between 145-172 BPM respectively, you're getting audiocidity confused.
If you still believe ALLY is House & techno after that, then that's on you. but Refusing to believe A Lot Like You is trance won't get you far when there are alot of other people believing it is Melbourne Trance & Progressive Trance. It's be easier to take it from people who have been in the Trance scene for a decade or more, than to take it from someone who hasnt a clue (Not anyone here, but there are some people who are compulsively annoying & believe absolute idiocy); I'd rather you get the information correctly than to fall into the hands of the people who dont know anything.
Zac Waters also made sure of the genre before he submitted it.
It's also easier to label it the way monstercat did on the video, even though going quantums judgement can be a little foggy, (Crossroad and Evaporate are just 2 examples). And yes techno also has a big BPM range, such as Freak, Murder, oh wait, you just came from a different wiki.
if you truly think I just came in from a different wiki source, you are sorely mistaken. I have been active in the Trance scene since 2006, after Rising Star's Burned With Desire Remix. all of what I said has come from personal knowledge, not a wiki; though I'd be happy to edit a Trance wiki, because I know too much about the Trance scene. It's exactly how I did Ruben de Ronde & Ferry Corsten's description. by personally experiencing what these artists have done over the years.
Believe what you will, but Going Quantum has been off with his genre classifications since Mr FijiWiji - Gina. (Early 2012)
But A Lot Like You is trance, & trust me, I didnt believe it at first until I did my own research on Meltrance as it was something brand new in the scene. But once I put the effort in & did the research I was able to agree with the genre presented by Zac Waters himself. & find more songs that were Meltrance until I was able to get a good discography going.
Shattered Ice and myself have listened to Trance music for over a decade, so we have watched the genre evolve & know the ins and out of really any subgenre. None of this is coming from "a different wiki", it's coming from our own brains.
Making generalizations when running a wiki trying to be as accurate as possible is the worst possible thing. Just because 138 is between 136 & 140 doesn't mean that "all trance is 138". Like I said above, Progressive Trance sits between 126 & 130, so your argument is 100% invalid with that dispute alone.
Then the thing about Audiocidity, it's not 172 BPM, it's 140 BPM with a Psytrance Tri-tonal lead throughout. It's not remotely Hard Dance, it's Psytrance.
I'm not even close to butthurt, I was really saying you may have had years of experience with the genre, I didn't say audiocidity was 172 bpm as well, if I applied your logic to the full extent, I could say any prog house song is progressive trance as well couldn't I? I also don't listen to much trance as well, so I don't know the genre, I'm just trying to help manage a wiki, and I'm getting you confused with the people saying 2127 is a deep house song, sorry
Yeah, halftime could be more of a general term, you could use neurostep as a generalization for drumstep and dubstep both, as they both have step in the name, see you could even call drumstep and halftime neurohop if you were counting in other time signatures, or a lower bpm, so genre is really iffy with neuro influenced music unless it's a clear neurofunk split
Have you guys noticed that the recent songs on uncaged have had something to do with Jamaican music influence, work has samples of Jamaican, and kawilboy is a Jamaican singer, maybe mc is hinting at the MC Mota song with muzzy as a possible release soon.
I doubt that it was done on purpose, considering that Bossfight, Rickyxsan & Kalibwoy, and Muzzy, Teddy Killerz, & MC Mota all created the songs separately, without knowing for sure whether they would be released on Monstercat.
Whether Monstercat decided to schedule the releases together once they accepted the songs, we can't know for sure. But I feel like we just happened to get a few releases with Jamaican influences, and it wasn't intentional. We've gotten similar-sounding songs in the past, with no correlation, such as Resistance, Watch Out, and Rapture.
I'm gonna be a content moderator, banning kids who put in wrong information, spam, and/or bad behavior, you get one warning from me, if you cross the line again, you're banned for a day, again, you're banned indefinitely.
Actually I dislike where this wiki is going, we have CATEGORIES FOR OLD ARTISTS AND MOST ADDICTIVE ARTISTS FOR ACTUAL GODS SAKE, plus old songs and other dumb stuff, not to bash on EmbryoYall but these categories are totally redundant and ridiculous, people are just becoming stupid and all I see are categories being added where they shouldn't. I'm cool with the different record label categories because it's actually useful, but the whole artist and song thing is just totally unnecessary and it's just clogging up the wiki with complicated that can always be changing. People are gonna get into disputes on what the artist are considered, if the songs are old, etc, I kinda just feel like not editing anymore just due to the fact of the fandom users being intellectually challenged to set the wrong information, new editors just doing dumb things, and not to bash on you ary, but this is a casual wiki, we aren't competing with others to be popular, or to keep this wiki alive. Just stupid people.
I completely agree on the vague, ambiguously defined categories.
However, I will defend my reasoning for the "Most Addictive" category: the purpose of the category wasn't to describe certain artists as addictive - obviously an artist's music will elicit different reactions from different people, so we shouldn't generalize that.
The category was made along with the other record label categories (list found on my user blog) that I made because Most Addictive is a record label, releasing various types of electronic music. The label's YouTube channel, however, often features music from other labels, including Monstercat. This is why I placed so many artists in the category, because all of those artists had been featured on the channel.
The issue is that much, or even most, of the music on that channel is not actually released through their label, but is simply to promote the music (like Trap Nation, MrSuicideSheep, and Proximity uploading music from other labels even though they have their own labels Lowly Palace, Seeking Blue, and Proximity Records respectively.)
Since it is often difficult to distinguish whether music on the channel is from their own label or not, and because some people unaware of the label might interpret the category as one for "addictive" artists, I will remove the category from all pages to which I added it.
And again, I agree that the other ambiguous, non-label related categories should be removed. I do not condone them, and none of them were created by me.
I don't think the songs under 4 minutes shouldn't be removed from the wiki. Besides, about half of the Monstercat songs released from the past are under 4 minutes. It's the songs the artists want to make and how long they're thinking it should be. It's not what the people want, it's what the creator of the songs wants to make. I get where you're going though, I respect that.